--- On Tue, 22/7/08, Andy Smith <andy@???> wrote:
> From: Andy Smith <andy@???>
> Subject: Re: [Hampshire] serial console remote control sorta thing type deal
> To: hampshire@???
> Date: Tuesday, 22 July, 2008, 7:51 PM
> On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 05:31:21PM +0000, Isaac Close wrote:
> > --- On Tue, 22/7/08, Andy Smith
> <andy@???> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 04:35:34PM +0000, Isaac Close
> wrote:
> > > I would like to connect to my computers serial
> port from a remote
> > location. Whats the name of those things that allow
> this ? I forgot :(
> >
> > A modem and a phone line?
> >
> > Another computer in the same place that you have
> access to, with a serial port?
> >
> > That's all a terminal is.
> >
> >
> > Er, thanks for that wonderful piece of advice, but I
> reckon i'd need
> > a very long phone cable to reach the office at the
> data centre from
> > my rack, and i've not tested my usr courier
> > v34 with kermit for quite some time :)
>
> I don't think you understood. Modem, goes into your
> server and
> connects to a phone socket in or near your rack. You dial
> into
> modem from home. Modems can accept calls as well as
> originate them
> you know.
Yes I did, and yes i am very well aware of that.
>
> People still use this a lot as a terminal server because,
> well, how
> do you plan to connect to your terminal server if the
> datacentre's
> network is completely screwed?
I don't plan to connect to the server if the datacentre's network is down.
But I see what your saying, i didn't think i had the option to install a
phone line, is this normal ?
> Many appliance-like terminal servers
> come with an additional serial port to plug a modem into,
> for this
> purpose. Or they have a modem built in already.
>
> But apologies if my "wonderful piece of advice"
> is not suitable.
That's ok, just don't do it again. Hehe only joking your advice is always
appreciated so please don't think otherwise.
>
> > Sorry i should have been a tad more specific.
> >
> > Basically i'm after something with an rj-45 ->
> 25 pin serial (net
> > instead of phone line modem), so i can reach my sun
> LOM remotely.
> > I know cisco do these things, i just can't
> remember the name of
> > them, also i'd rather not spend a gazillion quid.
>
> Also as I said, another PC that you can get to, that then
> connects
> to your Sun via serial. That is all a terminal server is.
>
> That is all that a cisco terminal server is.
Ok, but connecting from another PC isn't an option at this point, also time
is a factor so a box of plug in with instant joy is preffered.
>
> You can build one for less than a gazillion pounds, because
> low
> power PCs with a serial port and an ethernet port cost less
> than a
> gazillion pounds. e.g. a mini-itx, wrap pc or Soekris.
I've had enough mini-itx boxes going down in the past 2 years to avoid them in future. As for Soekris products, I'd like to try them out when i'm not so busy ;-)
>I like
> Soekris but they are relatively expensive. You can buy a
> USB card
> with loads of ports on and use USB-to-serial adaptors.
>
Cool.
> > Its kinda in the same train of thought as those aps
> power strips
> > one can log into over the network to power cycle
> machines.
>
> So they'd be PCs, with a built in power strip.
>
> You are thinking about this way too much.
>
Yes man, i usually do, sorry about that.
> If you want to buy an appliance as opposed to build you own
> then the
> name for them is "terminal server", as I said.
> But they're still
> just PCs with ethernet and a bunch of serials.
>
Ok, I just thought they were called something slightly different, like 'remote console servers' n that, since these days the terms 'terminal server' and infact 'terminal services' seem to have been nicked by microsoft.
> Hope I haven't wasted yours and my time further with my
> "wonderful advice".
No, as said before its appreciated.
I'll probably end up finding out that i can assign an IP to the sun LOM over BOOTP or something in the coming months, but for now i'm on the lookout for a keenly priced 'terminal server' :-D
many thanks indeed,
Isaac.
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