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On Sunday 03 June 2007 15:06, Andy Random wrote:
> On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, Adam Trickett wrote:
> > Yesterday was a BBC/London.pm teach-in at the BBC Broadcase centre in
> > London[1]. Annoyingly it clashed with the LUG meeting which I therefore
> > missed. Anyhow it was an excellent day with a series of Perl focused
> > talks
>
> I didn't even know that was happening, it sounds interesting and I'm sorry
> I missed it, but I'd have probably gone to the LUG meeting anyway given
> the clash.
It was advertised on the London.pm list a few weeks ago, before the LUG date
was official. All 50 places went within 24 hours, so I felt that as I'd
signed up I go even thought it clashed with the LUG meeting that I also
wanted to go to.
> > I'm not talking about a glitzy multi-session extravaganza, but taking a
> > normal LUG meeting (winter ones are more popular I think), with more
> > talks (I volunteer to give one or two), and some free
> > tea/coffee/t-shirts (or whatever).
>
> Jamies did provide free tea/coffee at the meeting yesterday which for
> those people who drink the stuff was I'm sure very welcome. Personally
> though from an event organiser PoV I can't see much reason or advantage in
> giving away things like pens & t-shirts unless you have a product to
> advertise.
Tea/coffee is really useful. The free lunch, which was both restrained and
healthy was great, t-shirts and pens was just because the BBC has boxes of
them, and I don't think they care what happens to them... It would be nice to
have someone pay for the food though.
> > Is anyone interested? or does it sound like too much effort (herding
> > recalcitrant cats) or distorting what we have?
>
> I've just written and deleted a long rant about how difficult it is to get
> volunteers to do almost anything at a LUG meeting let alone organise an
> event like this. However I decided on re-reading that it was probably
> overly negative and not particularly constructive.
>
> So instead I'll just say that while I'm sure such an event is possible, I
> think it would be a lot of work, probably mostly done by one or two
> people. I'm not sure we currently have a venue available to us that is
> suitable for it and while I personally might be quite interested in such
> an event I'm not sure it is the sort of thing most of the LUG meeting
> attendees want.
>
> All IMO of course and if you think that is negative you should have seen
> the email I deleted :)
I think you are 100% correct, it's hard to motivate people and get things
done, sometimes it takes a very thick skin and tough personality. It's hard
enough to get people to do things when they are paid to do it, when it's all
volunteer effort it's a lot tougher.
I raised the topic now because that gives us a chance to talk it through on
the LUG, and gives us enough time to organise it for this winter - should we
go for it.
I also accept that it may be the kind of event that people don't want, and if
that is the case I don't want to disrupt what we already have.
Any how it's food for thought.
--
Adam Trickett
Overton, HANTS, UK
Stupidity maintained long enough is a form of malice.
-- Richard Bos's corollary
