a bit more ignorance here...
what is an ISP in this context? is a webmail provider such as Google (Gmail)
an ISP?
jack
On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Rob Malpass <lug@???>wrote:
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sean Gibbins" <sean@???>
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> Subject: [Hampshire] [Chat] Another brick in the wall
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>
> > The BBC are reporting that the law requiring all ISPs to keep a copy of
> > the headers of all emails passing through their email servers is being :
> >
> > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7819230.stm
> >
> > Apparently 'small ISPs' are exempt, along with, presumably, private
> > individuals.
> >
> > Presumably the terrorists, paedophiles and organised criminals won't
> > know this and the huge effort and investment required to implement it,
> > along with the further erosion of our rights, will all be worthwhile.
> >
> > Reading on down the article there are similar plans for SMS messages
> > too, although for some reason the Post Office will not be required to
> > open each and every letter and keep a record of who sent it, who it was
> > too, when it was written, etc. Oddly inconsistent that..
> >
> > Am I right in thinking that someone once said that we get the government
> > we deserve?
> >
> > Sean
> >
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> exact
> > mathematical design, but what's missing is the eyebrows.
> > Frank Zappa
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> Out of interest (and showing my ignorance perhaps) why are they collecting
> from all ISPs - why not just collect from the sender's ISP? Surely this
> will just create 20 lines of data (one per hop) for every email sent?
>
> I must admit that I shudder whenever I hear about government IT projects.
> I have some experience of the way IT is approached by the "top of the
> office" in Whitehall and it is truly remarkable how much ignorance there
> is.
> That's why government IT projects involve so many different groups and the
> end up with massive communication problems keeping everyone informed.
> Hence they're slow and things get missed in an effort to cover every base.
>
> The only redeeming factor (if that's the right phrase) is that nobody does
> IT on the scale that govt do - but that's no excuse IMHO: privacy is
> privacy.
>
> Cheers
> Rob
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