Re: [Hampshire] Microsoft makes claim on Linux code

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Author: Jim Kissel
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To: hampshire
Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Microsoft makes claim on Linux code

Rather than rant myself, I though I might inject the learned words from
my quotable quotes files regarding Microsoft. There seems to be a good
fit between them that the opinion's of john eayrs. Some may consider my
injections elitist and hostile. If this be so, then flame on.

> john eayrs wrote:

[big snip]
>> I tried Redhat linux in 1995 and found it (with my DOS background) virtually
>> unusable. The usability of Linux for those of us who are not good at
>> remembering command lines is very difficult.
>>


Windows hasn't increased computer literacy. It's just lowered the standard.
seen on /.

> Is this a wind up :-) Just because you couldn't be bothered to learn the
> powerful commands you think DOS is better!
>> I for one welcome collaboration between Novel and Microsoft because in the
>> long term it will make the migration from Windows to Linux via SUSE a lot
>> easier.
>>
> Please, stick with Windows, my blood pressure is rising reading this.


"Windows is packaged with Solitaire (ooh)!
Linux is distributed with Doom.
... you can have your deck of cards, I'll take a chainsaw!"
--- paraphrase from comp.os.linux.advocacy

>> I do a lot of things in Windows because I have the software to do it without
>> much thinking.


The nice thing about Windows is - It does not just crash, it displays a
dialog box and lets you press 'OK' first.
Arno Schaefer's .sig

> Yes, I'm getting the picture, M$ has many like you and will make sure
> your addiction is maintained. Shame as you will miss out on all the
> ultra powerful free languages available to FLOSS users.
>
>> There is a lot of things in Windows which would benefit Linux. For example
>> I can do hard disk backups in 5 minutes. I can retrieve damaged partitions
>> without much difficulty. I can retrieve files off partitions which have had
>> the MBR damaged. I do not know how to do these sort of operations in Linux
>> with anything like the same sort of ease. I watch Divx and Xvid films on
>> Windows. When I tried this on Linux I had to give up.
>>


I just find it rather amusing that people can spend a lot of their time
purging their computers of viruses, worms and trojans, various security
holes, etc., but they find it difficult to learn how to use a more
stable platform.
Rome Feria: The Manila Bulletin Online 12/10/2005

> Just because you can't be bothered to learn you are again missing out on
> the flexibility of FLOSS. You can only do what M$ lets you do. We can do
> everything available to Windows plus a million other things.
>> To install a program in Windows takes me no longer than 5 minutes. To
>> install into Linux can take me considerably longer.
>>
> Rubbish. Yum and apt takes minutes to install an application. You have
> thousands of applications that you can download for free.
>> I use Word Perfect as my word processor. It can do certain things which is
>> not available in Open Office. This ensures that I do not use Open Office as
>> my word processor. Unfortunately my copy of word perfect is for windows.
>>


"MS isn't inherenty bad. They have just made more mistakes than others,
but that can change. Did you ever stop to think that they might just
want to do something right?"
....but....
People who stay in abusive relationships all sound exactly alike...
http://slashdot.org/~patternjuggler

> Again, open your eyes instead of sticking with what you know.
> OpenOffice.org has everything you could possibly want and it is FREE!
> Thank you Sun Microsystems.
>> I make it a policy to do byte by byte checks on all DVD or CD's that I burn.
>> One never knows if one has a good or bad writable media. This is easy for
>> me to do in Windows. I have not been able to do this in Linux yet.
>>
> If you download an ISO, it will have a checksum available. RTFM.
>> I have heard many stories how it has taken months to get a Linux machine
>> that the user is happy with. The windows desktop for many is usable from
>> the start.
>>


"Microsoft's biggest and most dangerous contribution to the software
industry may be the degree to which it has lowered user expectations."
-- Esther Schindler, OS/2 Magazine

> What, after 16 reboots you mean? Knoppix is fully working in minutes
> from a CD. Fedora works as soons as you logon.
>> I know several people who are able to do things in Windows and would find it
>> impossible to use Linux. Windows for better or worse brings computing to
>> the masses and as a result has enabled cheap machines because of the mass
>> production of computers.
>>
> Linux is making PCs even cheaper. See One Laptop Per Child project based
> on Fedora and $100-ish.
>> Would it be more sensible to recognise that different operating systems have
>> their strengths and weaknesses instead of comdemming things out of hand out
>> of pure reflex. And to recognise that the thinking involved in using Linux
>> effectively is very different to that for using Windows effectively.
>>


"There is a fantasy in Redmond that Microsoft products are innovative,
but this is based entirely on a peculiar confusion of the words
"innovative" and "successful." Microsoft products are successful -- they
make a lot of money -- but that doesn't make them innovative, or even
particularly good."
-- Robert X. Cringley


> No, we have used Windows and rejected it as poor quality software with
> limited features. Have you heard about not using MS software until after
> version 3?
>
> I know this attitude is fairly common and is what M$ is aiming to
> maintain. GNU/Linux FLOSS is already changing that attitude and this is
> why M$ is buying in to SuSE to try and halt it.
>