Author: Sean Gibbins Date: To: Hampshire LUG Discussion List Subject: Re: [Hampshire] apt-get pickle
Alan Pope wrote: > Hi Sean,
>
> On Tue, 2007-10-16 at 13:06 +0100, Sean Gibbins wrote:
>
>> Essentially I attempted to beat the rush to Gutsy by upgrading from
>> Feisty this morning.
>>
>
> How? Did you manually edit the sources.list and apt-get update &&
> apt-get dist-upgrade, or did you use "sudo update-manager -c -d"?
>
> (the latter being recommended, the former not).
>
Hi Al,
I went for the latter as it happens.
>
>> In retrospect I should have first uninstalled the
>> nvidia drivers that were installed by Envy on my feisty build, but I am
>> afraid that thought only came to me with the benefit of hindsight!
>>
>>
>
> In retrospect I would have advised you not to use envy, or indeed use
> the driver direct from nvidia.com in the first place, but we are where
> we are.
>
>
>> Anyway, I suspect the presence of the nvidia drivers upset dpkg and
>> caused that component of the upgrade to fall over, necessitating a
>> reversion to vesa drivers.
>>
>>
>
> You could alternatively use the "nv" driver in the meantime, which would
> probably yield better performance than "vesa".
>
Swings and roundabouts - there wasn't much to choose from in terms of
performance - I tried 'em both.
>
>> I have tried to uninstall (purge, in fact) everything that might be
>> causing the following error, but no matter what I do it seems to be
>> present in one form or another when I try to install either nvidia-glx
>> or nvidia-glx-new.
>>
>>
>
> Envy doesn't use the package manager to install the nvidia driver. It
> uses the binary installer from nvidia.com. Yes, in retrospect you could
> have uninstalled it using envy, or indeed using the binary manually
> downloaded from nvidia.com.
>
Yup, I have to take that on the chin: my fault entirely. I tried to use
envy after the upgrade, but it'd all gone wrong by then and envy took
umbrage!
> Whilst typing I've just seen your reply come through. So all I'd say is
> pick nvidia-glx or nvidia-glx-new (depending on graphics card - you
> don't say what you have) and only install from the gutsy repo. Get rid
> of the 3rd party cack that is envy.
Whilst I am glad to be moving on from Envy, it would be churlish of me
to agree with that statement, since Envy, for all its failings, got me
out of a jam that patience, googling and many hours wasted effort failed
had to, and in so doing allowed me to progress other things that were
hampered by poor graphics performance up until that point.
Anyway, I am now using the nvidia drivers as delivered through Ubuntu
Gutsy, so it looks like the manual triumphs over impatience and stupidty
once again! Here's to Alberto Milone, and to hoping that envy isn't
needed again anytime soon!
