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Daniel Pope wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 05:09:19PM +0100, Paul Tansom wrote:
>> Has anyone installed Zope, particularly on Debian (or I guess perhaps
>> Ubunut, although this box is currently Debian)? So far I'm considering
>> that pulling hens teeth may be an easier way to pass the time!
>>
>> What I'm trying to do is take a look at IssueTrackerProduct, which
>> requires Zope 2.x. There is a Zope2.9 package which I have installed,
>> and that has pulled in zope-common, which appear on the face of things
>> to have installed fine along with all dependencies.
>
> Blimey, now you're testing me. I evaluated Zope 18 months ago and it
> doesn't even remotely compare to Django, which I ended up using.
>
> If I remember correctly you'll find a command call mkzopeinstance which
> I think walks you through the process of setting up an instance. It
> creates it in a strange place like
>
> /var/lib/zope2.9/instances/<instance>/
Yes, I've found that. I think in the past 18 months things have changed,
or it may just be that I decided to stick with the Debian packages.
These use dzhandler, which I assume is acting as a front to
mkzopeinstance.py amongst other things.
> Then you can use zopectl to start it, and from then on it's all
> over-the-web - you'll need to install this IssueTracker product into your
> Zope instance, then you create an instance of that object in your site.
> Then you may have to wire up the site with ZPT or DTML.
The installation instructions talked about extracting it and then adding
through the web front end. It's the web front end I'd like to see,
although it may have been rash of me to assume that you should be able
to use the web front end from installation!
> Zope 3 is even more fail! Almost completely undocumented - apart from
> the dead tree book - it's a textbook example of second-system effect
> applied to a product that is essentially a failure in the real world.
> It's written in Python but wishes it was written in Java.
No real interest in Zope. As I said in my original email, the only
reason I'm looking at it is as a requirement for this
IssueTrackerProduct thing, which looked potentially good.
>> Anyhoo, just wondering whether anyone had any pearls of wisdom - I'd say
>> perls but this is python ;)
>
> Django.
>
> Django. Django. Django. Django. Django. Django. Django. Django.
>
> Bleh, just needed to get the taste of Zope out of my mouth.
Sorry, not looking to upset anyone. If you know of a Django job tracker
I'll take a look. I keep getting tempted to go back to my original idea
of about 10 years ago an rebuild my old system for Linux (perl or
whichever with MySQL or PostgreSQL). The original was a horrible mash up
using Javascript, HTML, MS SQL Server, Transact SQL and a tiny CGI
called HotSQL. Currently I need something up an running quickly that is
easy to use - I may be forced to take a look at RT, but that seems
overkill, even if it may be easier to get running!
> Dan
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