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On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 12:33:24AM +0000, Jamie Webb wrote:
> Yeah, I think the effects of this are largely to do with PR rather
> than anything practical.
>
> <rant>
> IceWeasel is the result of the kind of idiotic zealotry that the world
> would be far better off without.
Do you not understand that Debian's Firefox package became not
legally distributable by Debian?
Do you not understand that Debian cannot legally provide their own
security patches to Firefox?
Do you not understand that Debian is a project that exists to
distribute a Free operating system, and Firefox makes it not Free?
Whether you value that or not, do you not see that this is directly
at odds with the founding principles of the project?
> The Firefox trademark is protected
> for some pretty obvious reasons (and incidentally similar is true of
> the Linux trademark).
The Linux kernel is trademarked yet many distributions apply some
quite far-reaching patches to it, all without any approval by the
trademark holders. Somehow this is legally OK. But not for a web
browser?
> It wouldn't kill Debian to play nice like the
> other distros. So Firefox as distributed isn't DFSG-free? Big deal.
Nice of you to explain to the people who care about Free software
how their values are meaningless to you. Would it not be possible
to live and let live, or must they be forced to give up their own
values for the sake of convenience of those who don't agree?
There was me thinking that diversity was good...
> Isn't it sufficient that they had the /ability/ to make a 'truly free'
> fork? Did they actually have to go and do it? All they've done is
> create a potentially-damaging political mess where none needed to be.
You don't feel that the situation was brought on by Mozilla corp making
legal threats then?
What would you suggest Debian have done differently in response to
that?
Andy
